andrew lee just seized over 700 channels on freenode because they mentioned libera.chat in their topic.
This includes projects like openbsd, wikimedia, FOSDEM, etc.
https://archive.is/uHw1g shows 720 channels that match what is being checked.
here's an example log: https://gist.github.com/pushcx/ab2a1d5b1d18e964c581ef18ccb3a79f
boost this if you care about foss in any way.
@jordan31 @kline He is forcefully dropping and then registering "moved" channels to give himself op and remove the previous ops (abusing his control over ChanServ, this isn't something a normal user could do) to reopen channels and falsely presenting those channels as the "official" channels even though they are no longer the official channels for those projects. It should be noted that the Ops never gave up control over their channels, they simply removed everyone's voice and changed the topic, a perfectly valid thing to do.
One example: https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse
@jordan31 @kline I don't actually have a problem with him changing the channel name, that's his right to do so especially if they're not “official” channels anymore then they would've been considered off-topic even before the takeover. However, he is removing the original ops and even removed their voice so they can't even send messages anymore, added himself as op, and then reset the channel back to what it looked like before.
He added a rule (after he had already done this to all the channels) saying that you lose your op permissions if you “advertise” another chat network, but you can't call it fair for him say “well them's the rules” when that rule didn't even exist when he started doing this.
@jordan31 he's purged channels that were even talking about libera. This will affect channels that were saying "should we move to libera? Current consensus is no, but opinions welcome".
I know of at least 2 channels where this is the case - ongoing discussion with their hands forced.
@kline actually some logs shows he changed it to off topic, which would seem right considering these groups abandoned the channel. Looks like house cleaning. I still fail to sew what's so terribly wrong, evil, and dangerous to FOSS by this move.
freenode, bluntness from a sysadmin
The channel in question was just one example of the massive breach of trust that multiple sources have reported across the Freenode network post-takeover.
If you see nothing wrong with a mass takeover of community channels by a group with authoritarian overtones and history of doing shady shit, maybe you need a reminder that this sort of manipulation, deplatforming, and erasure is a symptom of the toxicity in tech investments these days.
What the new Freenode "owners" did goes far beyond "house cleaning", and borders on outright fascism. Idk where that falls on the "evil" meter, but it certainly isn't good or transparent or trustworthy.
So again...look deeper if you fail to understand why people are upset about this.
When something moves, it's generally okey to say so in the original place, e.g. people moving from GitHub to GitLab didn't get projects disappeared because they put the redirect link in project description.
@kline they took over my two channels even though we were waiting to move to libera until the matrix bridge was ready. I guess that means the process was automated for any channel that had libera even mentioned in the topic?
@kline transcript of it going down https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/nl74hc/freenode_has_unilaterally_taken_over_haskell/
@bshah I'm painfully aware:
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@kline I’m not sure I’m ever going to get used to seeing your avatar used as a preview link for this sort of thing hitting Hacker News.
@kline To be fair, it does very much resemble my own expression whenever I read anything about leenode.
@kline "Remember, we do not support spamming or advertising other networks in channels topics or in other forms."
NewFreeNode: We love Freeze Peach!
Us: put pointer to libera.chat in /topic to help users
NewFreeNode: Not like that!
25-05-2021 22:59:32 < freenodecom!~com@freenode/staff: This channel has been reopened with respect to the communities and new users. The topic is in violation of freenode policy: https://freenode.net/policies
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