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got a cease and desist let from ChooseCo, so sadly we're stopping the show and removing the web archives. If you want to listen to the historic stuff you can hit up my gopher hole.

Thanks to all the eager listeners each week. Maybe after the move I'll revisit a show under a new name.

@tomasino
Very sorry to hear that... you'd think they'd welcome people promoting their #CYOA products, but I guess they aren't replayable enough after one has listened to a single playthrough?

@FiXato they weren't really concerned with the show. It was more about the advertising and having stuff in writing. From what I can tell it's fallout from Bandersnatch. ChooseCo is sueing Netflix for 25+mil for using CYOA without permission. Part of copyright legal battles is showing that you are regularly enforcing the sanctity of your brand. Thus... the little guy gets a very nice email asking him to remove stuff.

@tomasino damn, what're the chances that an underground radio show gets hit like this

@cdmnky I should have know it would happen now. 29 episodes of me spending absolutely nothing on the show and everything is fine. I buy a mic to make it sound better, BAM, C&D. ;)

@tomasino Really? That sucks! Underground radio? Encryption? Matrix?

@adamd

@tomasino

Somehow I'm not surprised. Maybe it will be fine from .is, but also, maybe this is an opportunity for the more creative types among us to collaborate on e.g. a typepad writing new ones the lawyers in love can't bill hours for. With a different name too. program you own story or... (something better than that, of course), just not something the sharks can smell blood and hour tenths over.

@gemlog @tomasino To me its like free advertising. I have a brand new CYOA book next to me that would have never been purchased if not for CYOA. They should thank or pay you tomasino.

@adamd @gemlog I can't hold it against them. They do own the copyright on most of these books I'm reading. I'm also using their name directly, not attempting to call my show the "happily picking your path to death show". The woman who wrote me was very sweet about it and almost apologizing in her request.

There are free interactive fiction books I can read, I can write my own, and there are other options to explore. Iceland will bring a new version of the show, I think.

@tomasino What law were you braking? Are you saying its not legal to read a book over the radio?

@tomasino
Damn... heard about this in tilde.chat, and it sucks big time

@tomasino nuts. how did they find out? Is livestreaming without archiving a feasible workaround?

@tomasino I just read this. Sad to hear it. ChooseCo should be thankful that you are promoting their products tbh. I'm looking forward to a new show from you... whenever you are ready 👍👍👍 You need to focus on your big move. I hope it goes very smoothly

@tomasino This sucks, massively, and I'm sorry to hear it. A terrible move on their part, IMHO - I literally had no idea ChooseCo existed, I had just assumed those books were abandonware by now. They are indelibly linked in my mind with stomping on the harmless, non-profit fun of, what, a couple dozen people? If they'd just asked you to plug their website occasionally instead, it could have been a small net benefit for them. Petty minds.

@solderpunk the best i can tell, they were aware of my existence for a while and didn't care until Black Mirror did the whole Bandersnatch thing. Netflix didn't get permission and blatantly used Choose Your Own Adventure for their own profit. ChooseCo is suing them for 25mil+ and need to show that they defend the copyright as part of the suit. The person who emailed me was very kind about the whole thing.

@tomasino Ah, I wasn't aware of the Black Mirror case. I've heard of this sort of thing regarding trademarks before, I didn't think it applied to copyright too? Regardless, it's kind of sad to think the courts could be so easily fooled by a sudden surge of trivial lawsuits immediately after one major one.

@tomasino @solderpunk It's too bad Netflix and the producers of BM took a shortcut and ruined our fun. It's not as though the couldn't afford paying the royalty.

@solderpunk
I had the same reaction. I had no idea it was a brand in the first place, let alone something actively maintained. It never occurred to me that all of these books were from the same group.
@tomasino
Glad to hear they were as cool about it as one could be.

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