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Ok family, I've relocated to gopher://baud.baby - the phlog is up and I'll write a file about what's goin' on first thing tomorrow, everything else I'll theme and fill in in the coming days.

Re-calibrate your mokuponas and re-point your selectors as you like. 💻👶💕

@Cat The Scattering deepens! Glory to decentralised gopherspace!

@solderpunk @Cat yeah my gopher space could be found at gopher://m3tti.ddns.net ;) have fun. but i'll switch in the near future from slack to netbsd i guess.

@m3tti @solderpunk @Cat one of these days I will have to go through my Moku Pona list and do the Big Update. I just hope other people are keeping track of the Phlogs!

@kensanata @m3tti @solderpunk @Cat I've got 80 on my list now. Feel free to grab

@tomasino @kensanata @m3tti @Cat Holy crap, 80 phlogs? I hereby award you the title "Hero of Gopher Labour".

@solderpunk @kensanata @m3tti @Cat m3tti added, so now it's 81. A few are multi server dupes, but not many.

m3tti: I'm testing on mobile and your gopher hole seems to be having some issues when I link around. Might just be me, but if you're at a comp you might want to give it a look.

@m3tti @ckeen @tomasino @kensanata @Cat I have always thought of "federated" as meaning something like "an extensible network composed of multiple servers which interact as equals", and of email as being the standard example.

From this perspective, depending on how strict you want to be, "federated gopher" either (i) makes no sense, because there is no concept of servers interacting, or (ii) is already here, because anybody can setup a new server with equal status to the existing ones.

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@m3tti @ckeen @tomasino @kensanata @Cat In some ways, "federation" feels like a bad/incomplete metaphor. Thinking of federated states like the US or Australia: the individual states can make their own laws, and citizens can freely move between the states (a good match to how the fediverse works). But both also have a "federal government", which can impose laws on *all* the states. The fediverse thankfully lacks this - it's a kind of power structure that most of us explicitly want to avoid.

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@solderpunk you could say the common protocol stack is the governing structure, and it looks like an apt metaphor since the recent ... attacks involved the protocol stack (bolting various abominations on top of OStatus, moving to activitypub so GS can't talk to mastodon instances) @ckeen @tomasino @kensanata @cat @m3tti

@m0n5t3r @ckeen @tomasino @kensanata @Cat @m3tti Very good point, I hadn't thought of that, but I think you're right, it's pretty apt. Federal laws often restrict the kinds of things states can/can't do with their own laws and (I presume?) are what gives citizens the right to move between states. This maps very nicely to the idea of the underlying protocol, and even the software implementing it, defining the powers of instance admins and facilitating movement between instances.