Ok #gopher family, I've relocated to gopher://baud.baby - the phlog is up and I'll write a file about what's goin' on first thing tomorrow, everything else I'll theme and fill in in the coming days.
Re-calibrate your mokuponas and re-point your selectors as you like. 💻👶💕
@Cat The Scattering deepens! Glory to decentralised gopherspace!
@m3tti @solderpunk @Cat one of these days I will have to go through my Moku Pona list and do the Big Update. I just hope other people are keeping track of the Phlogs!
@kensanata @m3tti @solderpunk @tomasino's on top of that, his list is great 💪
@kensanata @m3tti @solderpunk @Cat I've got 80 on my list now. Feel free to grab
@tomasino @kensanata @m3tti @Cat Holy crap, 80 phlogs? I hereby award you the title "Hero of Gopher Labour".
@solderpunk @kensanata @m3tti @Cat m3tti added, so now it's 81. A few are multi server dupes, but not many.
m3tti: I'm testing on mobile and your gopher hole seems to be having some issues when I link around. Might just be me, but if you're at a comp you might want to give it a look.
@tomasino @solderpunk @kensanata @Cat it's currently updating :D that might be the issue
@m3tti looks like internally links are trying to redirect to m3tti.sds-ip.de and failing. Maybe gophermap stuff or maybe the updates you mention
@m3tti @ckeen @tomasino @kensanata @Cat I have always thought of "federated" as meaning something like "an extensible network composed of multiple servers which interact as equals", and of email as being the standard example.
From this perspective, depending on how strict you want to be, "federated gopher" either (i) makes no sense, because there is no concept of servers interacting, or (ii) is already here, because anybody can setup a new server with equal status to the existing ones.
@m3tti @ckeen @tomasino @kensanata @Cat In some ways, "federation" feels like a bad/incomplete metaphor. Thinking of federated states like the US or Australia: the individual states can make their own laws, and citizens can freely move between the states (a good match to how the fediverse works). But both also have a "federal government", which can impose laws on *all* the states. The fediverse thankfully lacks this - it's a kind of power structure that most of us explicitly want to avoid.
@m0n5t3r @ckeen @tomasino @kensanata @Cat @m3tti Very good point, I hadn't thought of that, but I think you're right, it's pretty apt. Federal laws often restrict the kinds of things states can/can't do with their own laws and (I presume?) are what gives citizens the right to move between states. This maps very nicely to the idea of the underlying protocol, and even the software implementing it, defining the powers of instance admins and facilitating movement between instances.
@solderpunk @Cat federated gopher space would be nice :D
How would this work? In theory you can already build a client upon gopher that will gossip feeds around, but gopher in itself is just a structured document access protocol
@ckeen @solderpunk @Cat something like a p2p network like in beaker browser. where the pages / documents are shared and everyone can look at it like in lynx.
Just serve your textfiles over dat?
@ckeen @solderpunk @Cat what's dat?
A DHT adressable content distribution system which differs to torrents that the contents are versioned and may change.
Implemented in node.js unfortunately.
@ckeen @solderpunk @Cat currently looking at the site and maybe we could reimplement it in lisp/scheme or c.
@m3tti @solderpunk @Cat can you guys clarify for me what specifically you mean when you say federated? I think my definition might be too narrow cause I'd have said gopher already is federated.
@solderpunk @Cat yeah my gopher space could be found at gopher://m3tti.ddns.net ;) have fun. but i'll switch in the near future from slack to netbsd i guess.