This is a bit depressing.
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This underlying problem needs to become a priority. Either pressuring #github to go free software or getting free software to go elsewhere.
Github becoming synonymous with open source just muddies free software waters more.
Free Software needs free tools.
@satchmoz Maybe i misunderstand. We all want free software, but service costs money. What github software is commercial? I canβt run a source control system as reliably and inexpensively as they can. Itβs a waste of scarce resources to spend them on undifferentiated heavy lifting. Which bit of github is so offensively commercial?
@paco its not that their commercial its that their closed/proprietary.
@satchmoz as for paying, I will pay if I self-host. I buy kit, I buy ISP connectivity. If I rent that from someone else, I still pay. I donβt see how renting the service from them is different from paying for it myself. Paying someone to run infrastructure cheaper and better than i can do it myself makes good sense. Itβs a tiny fraction of people who might do it cheaper or as reliable as github do. Iβm not one of them.
@paco I am not talking about cost or purchasing. I use the term free as in libre not gratis. Free as in freedom not beer.
Background:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html
@satchmoz Dude. I've been around a long time. What part of github is governed by a non-free license? What rights do you give up to store your code at gihub? I don't need first principles of what "free" means. I need to know what things github makes you give up to store your code there. What is it that makes it not free?
@paco I pointed that out to you because you insisted on making the conversation about cost.
If you actually understand the background issues at hand and you disagree with me that is fine. But im going to end the conversation here then.
I was not out to seek converts to my position when others boosted that toot and I must confess im not comfortable with your tone.
@satchmoz Not trying to offend, but I am trying to get to the heart of the matter. You haven't identified which part of using github isn't 'free' by those definitions. I've made no personal attacks and I'm asking strictly relevant, on-point questions. What part of github is "closed/ proprietary"? (your words, not mine) I am not even doubting that you're correct. I suspect I just don't know the answer to that question.
@satchmoz In what sense is it closed or proprietary? I didnβt realise they had incompatible APIs or something that you could only access by paying.