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(Gosh Darn It! Now, I have to update all my NetBSD machines!!) 🤓

@netbsd

Flawless upgrade from 9.2 to 9.3!

Thanks to all the programmers, that was truly painless... 🤓

@ParadeGrotesque @netbsd this is a virtual machine. upgrades aren’t even supposed to exist….

@uriel

And where is the fun in that?

Virtual machines are for testing stuff, break and rebuild - and especially testing stuff you can then launch on real machines.

@ParadeGrotesque

bare metal machines today are not that common, since you get the ROI much better with virtualization.

When it comes to updates of bare metal, either you use a canary approach or a blue-green approach.

let’say it was a display of coolness.

@netbsd Glad to see the improvements to suspend and resume support and improved compatibility with UDF filesystems created on Windows 10. I'll have to give it a try on my laptop since up to 9.2 if I try to suspend to RAM on my laptop it just crashes instead.

@netbsd Also, when will NetBSD support 802.11n devices? It's kind of embarassing that they've been out for over a decade now and yet NetBSD still only supports a,b, and g.

@ND3JR @netbsd I feel like a lot of the BSD family is lagging behind in WiFi to lesser or greater degrees. I know it's something the FreeBSD Foundation is actively trying to fund to improve these days.

@ND3JR It's not "embarrassing", come on. We're a nearly entirely volunteer project with like 50k/year funding and about 70 active developers. Compare to the goliath that is the Linux Foundation...

Drivers are being converted one-by-one to support 11n by two developers as time allows on the src-draft branch on mercurial. A couple might be ready to test.

@netbsd It's emabarrasing from an advocacy standpoint. Having to tell someone who would otherwise use NetBSD on a laptop that their 11n WiFi devices most likely aren't supported is a dealbreaker for those people.

I'm glad to hear there are people working on this, though! I have a couple of 11n USB WiFi adapters that I wish were supported. What can I do to help make that happen?

@ND3JR Read the wifi renewal docs, write some code.

And that's not true, plenty of 11n devices are supported and work in 11g mode.

@netbsd I'm not much of a coder, so I guess that's out.

@netbsd This exchange did remind me that it's been too long since I've donated to the NetBSD Foundation. I've changed that. ;)

Also, what I had in mind was lending out my two 11n devices. I know your website used to have a place describing that but I can't seem to find it again.

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