mastodon.sdf.org is part of the decentralized social network powered by Mastodon.
"I appreciate SDF but it's a general-purpose server and the name doesn't make it obvious that it's about art." - Eugen Rochko

Administered by:

Server stats:

2.6K
active users

Learn more

You remember scanning all images on your device?

If you have an , a new app that doesn't appear in your menu has been automatically and silently installed (or soon will be) by . It is called and does exactly the same - scan all images on your device as well as all incoming ones (via messaging). The new spin is that it does so "to protect your ".

You can uninstall this app safely via System -> Apps.

developers.google.com/android/

Google System APK Transparency  |  Android Binary Transparency  |  Google for DevelopersGoogle for Developers
Al

@jack Its time to renew my project to de-google my phone. Its hard since I'm still in the US and most good phone are in the EU.

any recommendation on a good phone to start with?

Feb 05, 2025, 22:54 · · · Web · 5 · 17

@mral It seems that and thus is available in the USA:

murena.com/america/products/sm

I can't say that much about Murena and their (degoogled) OS, but I've been a happy Fairphone user for almost a decade now (both and stock).

is a good OS choice, check out their supported devices:

calyxos.org/docs/guide/device-

looks pretty good, too - but it only runs on google's pixel (which admittedly is one of the most open phones around).

grapheneos.org/

Murena Smartphones – Murena – deGoogled phones and servicesmurena.com

@jack thanks, that give me a good place to start.

@jack @mral Stock Fairphone has that App installed.

@schnittchen
I'm using LineageOS microg on my FP4 and I don't see that app
@jack @mral

@empathicqubit @schnittchen @mral Stock android will definitely install it. Probably most/all OEM androids, too.

@jack
If it is part of Google's "vision" for Android, they will require it for certification.
@schnittchen @mral

@empathicqubit

Same setup for me (FP4 + LOS22) and here it's installed:
Version 1.0.718345453
com.google.android.safetycore

@empathicqubit
Also running lineage with Gapps on a FP4 as well and don't see it either

EDIT: never mind, I take that back. You can't search for it anywhere but it is in All Apps settings

@schnittchen @jack @mral

@schnittchen @jack @mral LMAO Fairphone is such a scam....

@dalias @schnittchen @jack @mral it's a tradeoff, without being certified by Google and following their rules they would reach way less people and for the more privacy focused people they put almost zero rocks in the way of unlocking your phone and installing a custom ROM 🤷

@jack @mral

+1 for graphene, it's all you need and more.
You can even buy pixels where it is preinstalled, if you have some cash and don't feel like hacking yourself.

@jack @mral I wonder if plasma mobile would work on this.

@manchicken @jack @mral #postmarketOS runs well enough on various Fairphones, and you can install Plasma on there.

@jack@sdf.org @mral@sdf.org I use a Pixel 6a with the latest version of GrapheneOS and can confirm that Android System Safety Core app does not exists in my system.

@mral @jack e/OS/ on Fairphone works perfectly. IN EU you can buy directly flashed phones, but the flashing is very easy and documented well.

@jack @mral I bought my #Fairphone 4 from Murena; paired with #LineageOS , it's been a lovely experience so far!

@mral @jack If you can afford one I highly recommend a Google Pixel phone & to flash it with #GrapheneOS (for any other Android phone, #lineageos as an alternative suggestion). If you are not familiar with GOS then watching 'Side of Burritos' on YT is a great starting place. The GOS web installer is so easy to follow. 'Rob Braxman' is another YT account I'd highly recommend following. Privacy & Security are two different things of course so everyone's threat models are different. All the best 👍

@mral @jack Murena. I have one for 5 years now. I had problems to use foreigner banks, so I have to have a cheap 100€ standard smartphone to use bank apps (or one or other toxic app).

@veroandi @mral @jack

I have an FP4 with /e/OS and banks, digital ID and everything else works.

There are no Google apps on my phone.

I'm in Italy.

@mral @jack I heard Pixel with GrapheneOS is a good combination security-wise.

@mral @jack what is your current phone ! Does eOS supports it ?

@mral @jack If you want high-end, one of the premium models supported by GrapheneOS. If you're happy with anything decent that will run LineageOS or similar, Motorola is my go-to. Even stock, it's not heavily malware-infested, and they're super cheap. Mine I got for $125 3+ years ago is still very usable. Just check the specific model with compat list before buying.

@dalias @mral @jack
Their schtick is repairable/replaceable parts and ethically sourced materials, as far as I know they're still the only phone where you can replace parts yourself.

Lineage isn't the main point of it, it's just there's an overlap between people who value repairable and people who value a lack of Google.

@mral @jack
You don't need to buy a new phone to degoogle, if you've a model which has a lineage ROM available. You can check if yours fits here: wiki.lineageos.org/devices/

@econads @mral @jack
If you want banking and some official apps (in DK drivers licence, mitID) you need a oem system, so that the phone does not appear as rootet. You can get oem e/os/ images for fairphones, or buy one with it installed. I installed it myself on my FP3, works mostly fine, even without google play services :)

@anderslund
Seconded: my dad has a murena (e/os/) phone and he's 70. I won't say he's never had to ask for help but I'd say it's normal phone things that you could work out.

@mral @jack

@mral @jack Have another +1 for /e/OS on Fairphone 4, really good Android experience but on a phone that's both super repairable and highly privacy-oriented. And of course, as little Google as you like.