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@khm You are being unkind to hackernews. I’m serious.

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@khm

In the replies, I see that yet another person can't help dredging up that nonsensical claim that the fisheries off the Somali coast were utterly devastated by the clandestine, illegal dumping of "90 barrels of radioactive waste from the USA & Europe". Where did that even originate?

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VOA:"UN: Nuclear Waste Being Released on Somalia's Shores After Tsunami
October 31, 2009 03:02 AM"

voanews.com/archive/un-nuclear

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@hhardy01 @khm

Sadly, I have to take any such report with a grain of salt. Some degree of dumping of toxic & hazardous wastes is (alas) credible, but anyone with knowledge of the subject matter knows that radioactive wastes with any kind of actual hazard potential are quite closely controlled by the governments of the countries where they originate, as well as by international agreement. Moving them at all, much less out of the country, involves strong oversight.

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@hhardy01 @khm

Unfortunately, UNEP is infamous for knowing literally less than nothing about anything "nuclear". They steadfastly refuse to have anything to do with, & indeed reject input from, specialist UN agencies possessing relevant expertise, such as IAEA or ICRP, & are very closely intertwined with "environmental" pressure groups which openly put antinuclearism ahead of any goal which actually preserves or benefits the biosphere.

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@hhardy01 @khm

You can tell that both the writer & the person being interviewed know nothing about the subject by the way they confuse terms. "Nuclear waste" normally refers to nuclear fuel wastes, which are SUPER tightly controlled. "Radioactive" waste is mostly things like discarded laboratory glassware, or stuff used in medical procedures. Back when sea disposal was allowed, it was put in drums with concrete, & dumped in a controlled area in mid-ocean.

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@hhardy01 @khm

And "uranium" ― is he talking about mine tailings? That seems unlikely… Discarded items used in metallographic laboratories in contact with uranyl sulphate solution? uranium solutions used in toning photographic prints?

Soluble forms of uranium are considered to pose a larger toxic hazard to the kidneys than they are a radiation hazard. Insoluble forms aren't very dangerous unless (a) finely divided, & even then it's questionable, or (b) moving very fast.

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