It's hard for me to convey how disturbing I find the growing sentiment that intellectually rigorous debate should be reserved for 'fun' topics that have no meaningful consequences at all, while for matters of literal life or death it's completely inappropriate to be cautious in your beliefs

Insofar as social justice topics are an area in which getting the right answer is existentially important, surely this should be precisely a reason to enforce the strictest norms of intellectual rigor in discussing them? But it seems like the usual attitude is precisely the opposite.

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Intellectual rigour is important. I place a high value on it, & wish that other people did as well.

But if you say to someone, "because you belong to X group or have Y characteristic, I should be allowed to deny you access to housing, medical care, & employment, or even to kill you, without suffering consequences ― prove me wrong", you should not expect a reasoned argument. You should expect a gunshot to the chest, followed by one to the head.

At the risk of being ignored by ―continued

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Okay but like

To me, the propositions "your group deserves to be mistreated" and "your group is not actually being mistreated" are worlds apart

They're both false, but the former is evil whereas the latter is just incorrect.

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