I'm totally behind this in theory, but I don't pay more than $100 for a phone. puri.sm/products/librem-5/

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@moondoggy I outright "bought" my galaxy s8 recently, and can't figure out why it routinely decides to adjust my settings to "optimize" battery life. I mean, I know it's probably just a switch in there, but for goodness sakes... leave the wifi on! I can see the draw of an open source smartphone too, even at that price.

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@epl692 I'm mostly interested in privacy, but a phone you could tweak would be great.

@moondoggy but that's the thing, if my phone feels free to change my wifi settings without asking me, what data is it sharing without asking me? I mean, I already openly sell my location history to google for money, (Google Opinion Rewards App) Which is funny given that I'm a bit paranoid, heck I even take pills for it, but I KNOW I'm selling that information. With the rest of the phone, I've got no clue, it's kinda scary.

@epl692 now I can see what you mean. And you can be both paranoid and correct at the same time. Turns out the FBI *was* spying on Hemingway.

@epl692 @moondoggy I finally removed the foil-wrapping around my phone when traveling once I was convinced that the wifi and data were staying off. And that was after removing the facebook app.

@xmanmonk @moondoggy Oh that's another whole item... the phone I spent money on, that I apparently "own", I can't fully remove facebook from. I can/have disabled it, but it's still in there someplace, lurking in the 1's and 0's. I find it unsettling sometimes.

@epl692 @moondoggy Indeed, it's unsettling. Dirty rotten bastards! (I'm prone to yelling that several times a day and shaking my fist because I'm old)

@xmanmonk @moondoggy The true conspiracy here is them keeping Hellaphone from going mainstream.
youtube.com/watch?v=dF_-jQc53j
I always wanted to get it running on one of my devices, but never had a supported device.

@epl692 @xmanmonk would you really want to use anything developed at Sandia? They're into weapons and spying, which might not be good for the end user.

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