Since people are going on and on, that #Selfhosting is not just running a script, let me clarify this:
Self-hosting is like gardening. Yes, it needs time and love. But mostly for making new stuff or big changes happen. When you do it properly it can boil down to a few minutes a week, as you maybe just need to water your plants in the garden.
It's a hobby, not everyone needs to do it. There are professional services as alternative, but it's nice to share with friends.
@sheogorath yeah, and when you (or others) depend on it and something breaks unexpectedly it can burn down your whole weekend.
it's all about the level of dependency & interdependency
if people rely on your infra working, its not like "oh look at this one beautiful tomato"
its more like "I guess we don't get to have dinner with our friends/family/co-workers/teammates this week"
I don't know about you, but when I think of gardening I actually think of groceries. I might make it to live from my garden, but that doesn't mean I'm a farmer or can't buy things from outside. But it's nice to not depend on those outside services. Same goes with hosting.
And when a bad day in the garden means you won't have food on the table, you are doing it wrong. Same goes for hosting.
yeah, I don't think we're going to see eye-to-eye on this
suffice for me to say I find in your later posts enough to satisfy me as to why people see it as a "big deal"
@sheogorath @amenthes
garden vs groceries is a lot more fungible than hosting
to use hosting is to rely on it, at least to some level, for some things