@sir What alternatives could you suggest? IRC is text-only and primitive and Matrix is slow and I haven't yet seen a client with decent UX. I haven't used Zulip or Mattermost yet, I've only heard of them.

@phoe IRC is king, text-only is a feature not a bug

@sir @slp Of course it's a feature - unless you want to chat with someone who isn't a complete and total developer nerd like me or you and wants standard contemporary features like automatic image uploads, conversation threads, channel history, or if you want to build a community of non-technological people around your software. At that point, I observed that people prefer to leave rather than stay on IRC.

Or they start Discord servers of their own.

@phoe

I'm sympathetic to those concerns.

With IRC trollspamming finally endemic on many FOSS-associated networks & subsequent need for nick registration, the very low barrier-to-entry of IRC which was a trade-off against more intricate feature sets is gone.

@sir @slp

@phoe

That said, there are many choices which provide more features, but retain IRC's end-to-end freedom.

@sir @slp

@deejoe @phoe @slp more features are the opposite of what we need

Follow

@sir

yes, I've seen how you cherish such an expansive & welcoming "we"

@phoe @slp

@deejoe @phoe @slp who pissed in your coffee & asprin mug this morning

@sir

I don't know, but, see, it's afternoon here, and there's this guy in the timeline being all shouty, who then gets all knee jerk & sarcastic even with folks who support some his points.

But nah, that couldn't be it, could it?

@phoe @slp

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