The most similar thing to newsgroups today is Reddit, and I really enjoy following some communities.
Usenet had excellent usability, but Reddit has better moderation tools.
In the end, as experts say, tools don't create communities, they just allow members to find each other.
Here's a pretty good eulogy for the Usenet, from LWN in... 2005
I'm definitely browsing the newsgroup list to see if there is anything interesting left
3301/66518 (4%)
See you in like a week
Some names are definitely hilarious though
Can you imagine creating a dumb newsgroup in 1988 like
alt.config.christina.[redacted].needs.to.get.a.life
and that message is still available for all the world to see 32 years later?
There are a few posters in alt.conspiracy who still engage in discussions, and it looks like they're very active at it.
1116 messages in that group
Let's dive into alt.current-events!
cebit95
bosnia
somalia
oj-simpson
clinton
massacre.columbine
war-on-terror
Look at this groupname clusterfuck and the animosity somebody had against that "fred" guy.
There are a few "is-a-rapist" groupnames, you can see one here
Bonus: early 90s rare insults!
Oh! Let's see what was popular in the Usenet!
alt.fan.*
aaron-carter
addams.family
adolf.hitler 🤨
austin-powers
bill-gates
bloodhound-gang
callista-flockhart
chocobo
courteney-cox
david-duchovny
dragonlance
dune
gillian-anderson
hello-kitty
jackques-chirac
jennifer-connely
jim-carrey
kevin-mitnick
lara-croft
lion-king.scar 😂
lucy-lawless
ninja-turtles
nutella
pam-anderson
power-rangers
pratchett
princess-diana
... wait what? STOP
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
11629 motherfucking messages right now
I have to check this out
Ok so this is basically 10 people generating 11k messages per month.
And a few of them are crossposts or spam, but most of them are legit.
Legit like, somebody opened a text editor, wrote original content, and posted it to the group.
There's a lot of crazy people there.
Not because of their political ideology, which I don't care about, but because they actively engage in conversations in their echo chamber and insult each other even though those they insult are the only ones who pay attention to them
I mean, what's the point??
I have to admit there are interesting conversations there. Again, I don't care for that kind of discussions, but the posters can articulate reasonable arguments and follow discussions.
Let's leave Limbaughtown.
alt.fan.starwars has some activity, yay!
alt.flame.niggers --> exactly what you'd expect
alt.flame.rush-limbaug --> empty! the opposite of what you'd expect 😂
alt.freedom.of.speech.moderated
wait, what?
alt.global-warming
Want to make a bet?
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Yes, it's the same people as alt.fans.rush-limbaugh having similar but different discussions
Hey, an active group only partially overrun by wackos!
alt.history.what-if
Just look at the beauty of this hierarchy
alt.i-think.therefore.*
A quick Google search indicates that apparently the Fred guy was active in the Usenet around 2005 and contributed to many flames. So maybe he made a few enemies? Or just one enemy with a lot of free time?
Remember, kids: don't get into useless arguments on the internet, you never know if the other person is a nutjob
alt.journalism.* is pestered by rush-limbaugh fans
A few of the alt.linux.* have some activity
Hey, this is a good one!
Who you'd say posts to alt.lunatics?
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Got it right! rush-limbaugh fans 😂
I'm trying to hit every group whose target audience may intersect with the 2020 Usenet target audience.
e.g. linux/unix, microcontrollers, macintosh...
So far, little luck 😔
Let's continue scavenging
alt.music.* is pretty great too, unfortunately, all empty
🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️ FINALLY!
alt.os.linux
1492 messages
Most of them original, non-spam
WRITE THIS ONE DOWN!
15640/66518 (23%)
Going for lunch
Will continue later!
I'm back!
Somebody hated linux so much that they created these:
In any case, the alt.os.linux.* hierarchy has enough traffic to justify a visit. Check out the group for your favorite distro!
There is an alt.pedophile.* full of people's names. And these are not hollywood stars, they look like regular people's. How disgusting.
alt.personals.*
There's like 150 groups with different preferences for personal ads.
I wonder if they were ever used!
There's a hierarchy of alt.planets.* with all planets and moons of the Solar System
Including, of course, alt.planets.pluto
🤚 We've reached alt.politics
Should I even try? Or will I find our usual friends?
Usual friends it is!
As a curiosity, most alt.politics posts are cross-posted to other alt.politics.* groups including, for some reason, alt.politics.homosexuality. Of course, posts have nothing to do with homosexuality. Maybe some unsolved sexual issues from posters?
Whoever created alt.religion.macarena definitely made me chuckle.
The rest of the alt.religion.* groups is, again, exactly what you'd expect.
alt.suopprt.dylsxeia 🙄
alt.survival --> our rush-limbaugh fans 🤷♂️
alt.time-travel is empty 😥
🛎️ alt.toys.transformers is pretty active with on-topic discussions!
alt.tv.beakmans_world :__)
The alt.tv.* hierarchy is huge, but most of the shows are not aired anymore!
aaaand with
alt.zzzz.fred-[redacted]-is-a-piece-of-shit
we finish reviewing the alt.* hierarchy!
We're now at 22038/66520 (33%)
Let's continue...
The newsgroups were a great way of federating async chats. Every server could decide their retention policy, whether to carry some groups or not, filtering binaries... but it was under control of the institution and the sysadmin.
Man, this exercise is really making me nostalgic for the Usenet
And now we jump into comp.*
This is my biggest hope, let's see which groups are still alive!
YES!
Most comp.* groups have some original activity!
comp.lang.* and comp.sys.* are pretty active!
The french are also quite active, a few fr.* groups still have original messages
Now into free.*
It seems that free.* is a wasteland, except for free.usenet which contains over 60k messages!
free.usenet seems to carry warez binaries, which have not been propagated to news.sdf.org
Besides France, Italy is the other country with a couple alt-like hierarchies and some activity.
Back in the early 00s, the Spanish also had two of them (es.* and esp.*) and both were pretty active. I was even involved in the creation of a new group.
We've crossed 66%
linux.* is mirroring some linux mailing lists, but no OC
microsoft.* has like five thousand groups, all are mostly empty except for the occasional lost poster from Google Groups
now onto misc.*
Hey, misc.* has some activity!
Let's check out net.*
Nothing in net.* :(
Now onto rec.*
Nice groups here!
Actually, most of rec.* have at least some activity
rec.arts.anime.misc
rec.arts.movies.current-films
rec.arts.sf.*
rec.arts.tv
rec.bicycles.tech
rec.games.video.*
rec.motorcycles
rec.music.beatles
rec.pets.*
rec.radio.*
rec.sport.*
So happy!! 😍
sac.* is flooded with our rush-limbaugh fans for some reason
I had to search what sac.* meant, it seems to be Sacramento.
Here's a handy list of hierarchies: http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/
We are near the end of our trip
57440/66520 (86%)
Onwards to sci.*
Oh no! The thread got broken!
Continue reading here: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@cfenollosa/103471732465361915
@cfenollosa I tried to get usenet to work on SDF but couldn't figure it out. I should give it another go.
@junkman pretty straigtforward with slrn, connect to news.sdf.org with your username and password and that's it!
@cfenollosa
I think I've actually used rec.arts.anime in the past decade sometime.
The amount of commercial hierarches like borland.*, 3dfx.*, adobe.*, microsoft.* and others make me think that providing customre support in "social networks" is not new!
What a better place to centralize all support requests than a public forum that the support team monitors regularly?