Emacs vs vscode 

Just had my first exposure to remote development in VSCode. Emacs is dead, I'm afraid to say.

Emacs vs vscode 

@freakazoid or we could add support to emacs? 😄

Emacs vs vscode 

@shapr Emacs has Tramp Mode, which works pretty well, but VSCode's client-server model gives it a huge advantage for remote development.

Emacs vs vscode 

@freakazoid @shapr remote development in CS Code is more like emacsclient over TCP than Tramp as far as I know.

Emacs vs vscode 

@bkhl @shapr Except that you can share your settings, and of course you still have a GUI. Folks who use a terminal and one remote dev host won't care, but for modern "cloud development" it makes a big difference.

I think Emacs can be brought closer to this without huge internal changes, but its ancient codebase seems likely to make even that size of a change challenging.

Emacs vs vscode 

@freakazoid @shapr sharing settings would be trivial, and using emacsclient you can still use your local GUI component. That's why I'm saying it's the most similar.

Using *different* configs while connecting to the same instance would be a bigger challenge.

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Emacs vs vscode 

@freakazoid @shapr context: I've tried really hard to like VS Code and adopt it because of its popularity in my team, but failed to see the point of it.

Remote editing was actually one of the things that almost kept me using it, except it turned out to be very flaky in practice, and incompatible with a bunch of the systems I need to work with.

Emacs vs vscode 

@bkhl @freakazoid @shapr that's my experience too. I always thought it's just because of our weird setup, curious how vscode is set up in your company

Emacs vs vscode 

@michel_slm @freakazoid @shapr there's nothing standardized in our company. I just installed the normal version and tried connecting to our various development system setups that are just VMs with the system installed on top of Red Hat/Centos.

Emacs vs vscode 

@bkhl @michel_slm @shapr The only place I've seen as solid a developer setup as my current employer is Google.

Emacs vs vscode 

@freakazoid @michel_slm @shapr if it takes that sort of resources to make it pleasurable to use, maybe Emacs will survive a few more decades. ;-)

Emacs vs vscode 

@bkhl @freakazoid @shapr from what I've seen I'd take Meta's fork of Phabricator over Gerrit, but Google's web IDE over the kludgily maintained VS Code setup at Meta.

I just use Neovim on my remote machine really (and Emacs locally)

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