I've received someting that is a bit like hatemail, over something small but that rubbed this person in all the wrong ways..
It's partly for accessibility, and partly for the aestethics
Well, this person is just not having it.
I read this, dismissing it as overreaction over nothing, but then it kind of kept me from sleeping.
I kept thinking about the email.
There's something that really pissed this person off, and it's got nothing to do with the webring.
I kindda get where they're coming from, if my studies, my work and my personal time goes into learning something, and then some other thing(like a silly webring) dismisses it all at once. I might be fucking pissed.
Without pasting the full body of the email, I can tell you that words like retrofetishism and entitlement were flown around, to give you a taste.
I think it feels entitled because it goes against what one does for work. I guess making money from building html websites is just not a thing, so instantly, this turns lo-fi into something for people who've got extra time and money,
@neauoire This idea that DIY is “privileged” is, pardon me, unmitigated horse shit. Anyone who is poor can tell you: being poor is nothing but DIY AND RETROTECH. If anything, it’s annoying when the more well heeled get into vintage, as it restricts access to older tech.
And if you can’t pay for fancy CS classes or software, options like smolnet / retro become jolly enticing as a good way to learn about infotech and deploy on old computers.
@neauoire To use the (sigh) jargon fashionable these days: it is mainstream tech which is ableist, classist, imperialist, a privilege. By providing smol / simple options, you help enable an alternative infotech tradition which empowers the disadvantaged to take ownership of the means of computing by using less robust and older devices.
@Shufei @neauoire What bums me out is that, in theory, we could absolutely write custom frontends for simple, standardized REST APIs in whatever language is needed for whatever device or accessibility concerns. But instead all the endpoints are locked down, and instead of the web browser being a way to view documents over a standard protocol, it's become a virtual machine for literally making REST calls and displaying the results.
@invis @neauoire This is what happens. A totalitarian regime as a system must increasingly be devoted to securing its own hegemony. It becomes brittle in doing so, stultifying, necessitating hunted demimondes to produce those endpoints. That is what we are seeing in these alt-tech communities. I’d hazard that the propaganda against FLOSS/H or open standards and such will only increase and become more shrill from here out.
The smolnet-way could be appealing to a lot of people who may not know its out there, so we need these spaces where they’ll stumble on it.
Like, the reason I and everyone I know uses Wordpress it has a low learning curve and yuo can just jump in and start doing it -- rather than taking the time and mental effort of learning HTML or whatever else y'all are doing in retrotech.
This is a multisided thing -- yes, there is an accessibility aspect to being usable by low bracket technology.
"I appreciate SDF but it's a general-purpose server and the name doesn't make it obvious that it's about art." - Eugen Rochko