@Shufei I honestly can't imagine how in the world things like those are still deemed optional by devs in 2020... Wait, actually I can imagine why: white dev privilege
@Antanicus I reckon it’s something like that? Why would anyone want to chat with XMPP without a dose of encryption being absolutely required? But if the catbird seat to not feel that one is askew.
@LPS @Antanicus I was actually wrestling with Gajim at the time, haha. It didn’t have any relevant plugins installed and wouldn’t sensibly keep them installed. The process to use a key is hardly up front. Once I got it to work, it was fine.
But putting all that aside, ~90% of issues I’ve had with XMPP have been incompatibilities between clients and/or servers. Extensibility is a muddle when no one has basic shared expectations. One such should be encryption up front.
@LPS @Antanicus I mean... Here’s this ICQ-era chat tech. Control of info is fine, but most clients can’t decide how much of that should be legible to the user. I have used clients which show no key info. Some demand otr still. Most demand no encryption, and make finding OMEMO a chore. And now OpenPGP. Lovely when it works, but for goodness sakes, how to sell this to non-techies?
"I appreciate SDF but it's a general-purpose server and the name doesn't make it obvious that it's about art." - Eugen Rochko