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XMPP is such a pain in the tukhas. Is this REALLY the best we can do?

I know I’m a tech nerd because instead of having nightmares walking somewhere naked, I have dreams where XMPP OMEMO doesn’t work and I *dont notice* until it is too late. Dash it.

The problem with an eternally extensible protocol is that unless basic expectations are met across the board, it becomes a disgusting muddle for users. If Alice’s client has different extensions than Bob’s, and Charlie’s server doesn’t support them, then everyon becomes a goofus schmuck. Funtimes.

@Shufei i can't figure out which among OTR (current, previous) OMEMO (v!?) and PGP (o? gnuo? wtf!) we're supposed to assume for and over which freaking protocol we're supposed to verify!

@nydel I’ve yet to see a client which makes it clear how one is supposed to deal with encryption, hoe the keys are exchanged and why some don’t. Never mind XEP and why some servers won’t play nice with things. It’s a mess of a tech ecosystem.

I always thought it was that XMPP gives us a lowest common denominator, similar to email. Like you can at least expect everything to say hi to each other. Kind of a bummer that it isn't that cut and dried.

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