Do you like and ? Are you in open revolt against the devilish mainstream internet, renouncing Web 2.0 and all its works?

If you use terminal colours via internet, please hit me up, here or on the textnet. I’m trying to make a central depot for gopher and Gemini colour sites, especially any artists doing ASCII/UTF8/BIG5 &c.


What can I say; I’m a bbs kid. I like CLI text. I like pretty primary colours.

That's "and all its works, and all its empty promises". Important to hit that note.

@Shufei I grew up on bbses and still celebrate ANSi art.

But have no intention of regressing back into dialup bbs for my communications or regressing to gopher either...

@tomosaigon Easy there, hoss... No one is going to dragoon you into progressing toward the modern textnet demimonde, I totes promise. haha.

@Shufei does that include things like um ?

(asciiarena is still down, yes I should fix that, maybe I will just try to do that this weekend)

(I need to make that available via gopher)

@Truck Ohhhh, yes! Oh, thanks, I love it! Indeeed this site is included.

Please do make ASCII art on gopher and Gemini? And especially if in colour, please tender a head’s up!

@Shufei I have the responsibility of bringing the Amiga Ascii site 'asciiarena' back online. It's

(also I have run the Ansi/Ascii (Petscii) compo at Revision and Breakpoint for... I guess 15 years now. Evoke has possibly the biggest ASCII and ANSI compos; and I know lots of folks in that space.)

(And I'm a huge fan of, which ... is pretty much 180 degrees away; with the whole "make fun of huge signatures" things. And "YKI,YEI" (you kill it, you eat it. I.e. do not send us something to warlord, you warlord it.)

@Shufei ... it's ...

Monty Python's Flying Circus! No. actually, it's something I should also make work with Gopher. That would mean I could more easily visit it with the Amiga itself, which... is something I wish to do.

@Shufei also if you need any info about the SAUCE record and it's format, let me know; I need to do some more work with that as the ansilove processor for javascript needs to be expanded and the coder for it... well. He is 'away' again. So Burps/ex-FUEL has made his own, and I need to expand this for my ANSI/Ascii/Petscii viewer, Sahli.

There is a C library for this, ansilove, which is coded by Cleaner (Fredrick Cambus.) Who is also an OpenBSD coder.

So yes, there's more to ANSI/Ascii art than just ... "slightly shady things." Much of it has evolved to be far more than advertising (:

@Truck Oh, PETSCII, I love C64, and intend to play with fonts for it one of these days. That’s nifty they have compos for that. If you do those again, please do report on gopher about it. Smashing fun if asciiarena can be on gopher soon, regardless!

I know almost naught about the sauce record. Is it what makes ans files animate?

@Shufei No, it was an attempt by ACiD to put metadata into scene/art files. It was a binary record, and basically a form of tagging...

This has info on the records and how to read from C, and while there are documents on the original spec, I'm not sure later updates are documented... but we'll see as I ask about (possibly this weekend. Depends on what I decide I am doing the next 2 days before work pops back up Monday...)

@Shufei I'm thinking about how we could draw on accessibiltiy and customisation learnings to do "web styling" better in 2020 with Gemini and neo-Gopher clients. For example, to a RG colourblind reader, your ANSI codes for R/G are poorly distinct, so maybe they would like to translate the /emotional tenor/ the colours were intended for into a palatte of their choosing.
Also, the colour Red in Chinese ctx (Lucky?) vs Euro ctx (strength, anger, virility)
So the thought I'm having..

@Shufei, maybe instead of codifying colours as styling in the new, better-by-design web, we think about codifying emotional or stylistic intent: Instead of styling a word "red" we style it as "virile", and let a default pallette reign for different cultural backgrounds, customisable by each person according to need or want?

@Shufei Side benefits: I might want to view Gemini through a non-ANSI method without seeing inline escape codes, but maybe I wouldn't mind seeing some kind of easily filtered emotional markup like {style:emote:resolute}bash the fash!{style:emote:reset}...

@cathal Wow, this is heaps advanced for me, but it might be a fun content layer if it didn’t get too abstract. I’d not fancy CSS level of styling over Gemini, but if people do keep using colours it is bound to be done. My method for GopherColour is to have a plain page as standard with a separate page for colour. This respects the norms of “one page per serve” or whathaveyou. But it is nice how many clients are hiding escapes by default now if they aren’t desired.

@cathal Yea, red means happy, holy, cheerful, fortuitous in Chinese contexts... It’s the colour of blood, of sacrifice, life, birth. So it is used of summer and the south. One canny thing the communists did was to leverage these feelings to the hilt. Red summer and yellow stars of incipient harvesttide.

It would be nifty to see how such culture-stylings shift colours!

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