USPol A modest proposal 

- Simple: send me a Paypal and I'll express mail morning after pills straight from Europe. No questions asked.

- More elaborate: sign up for a secure web site and I will pair you with a person willing to the same.

- Perfect: use Tor to connect to a hidden service and we will do the same.

They can't open every single mail, right?

Who is with me?

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USPol A modest proposal 

Thank Cthulhu, smart(er) people than I were way ahead of me. Here are a few resources, including links to donation pages:

justthepill.com

abortionondemand.org

secure.actblue.com/donate/supp

And The Satanic Temple is already mounting legal challenges left right and center, Beelzebuth bless their hearts:

thesatanictemple.com/pages/leg

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USPol A modest proposal 

So, the next question is, what will happen when a 15 years old from Louisiana that has been raped and abused is going to flee to, say, New York City to get that abortion?

Are we going to see a state extradite a minor to another state? Prosecute the adults that helped her get to NYC?

Will the Supreme Court, in its infinite wisdom, rule that "Blue" states have to bend over backward to satisfy the "Red" states Talibans?

The mind boggles.

USPol A modest proposal 

Same thing, but straight fom Europe: aidaccess.org

Based in Austria.

USPol A modest proposal 

And a good guide about keeping your decision to have an abortion secret and secure:

digitaldefensefund.org/ddf-gui

F00king hell, I can't believe I have to post this as an important resource in freaking 2022. 🤦‍♂️

USPol A modest proposal 

A gentle, and useful, reminder by the kind people of The Satanic Temple:

nitter.snopyta.org/ChurchofSat

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@ParadeGrotesque

NY State has already declared that it will not extradite anyone to states that have abortion persecution laws.

So, when that happens, that will also go to SCOTUS. Things will get worse after that ruling.

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@bill

Civil War 2.0, here we come.

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@ParadeGrotesque

I really hope not. It won't look like 1.0, not by a long shot.

There won't be a warfront. Applicability of law will devolve from where it is now. Daily life will consist of random anons running around with guns harming anyone they don't agree with on a wide scale and in ways we can't predict today.

Many corporations will start to suffer because of the instability of the US. This will bleed over into secondary economic effects world wide.

The US is also the top food exporter worldwide, and has a number of famine relief programs in place. ALL of those will go away during a civil war, so expect any country affected by that to also have conflicts.

California would be one of the primary states to start defending itself. The problem with that? It produces 50% of the US dinner table crops. So, the rest of the US, Canada and Mexico will start experiencing famine, and it will be 2 or 3 years of peacetime before crop growth can be redistributed.

I won't even go into the issues of the militaries fracturing, or control of the nukes.

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@bill @ParadeGrotesque After deep legal research of the matter [¹] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_R says the Federal courts have the power to enforce extradition requests. Whether the Federal courts would…

[¹] i.e., following two Wikipedia links.

USPol A modest proposal 

@ParadeGrotesque If you want an idea of what's going to happen with this issue and some answers to your questions, look up info about the 1793 Fugutive Slave Act. Once you do, think that, but replace "slave" with "person trying to get/has gotten an abortion" or "doctor who performs abortions." And also consider that surveiling people is easier than ever.

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@ParadeGrotesque

I don't know if you've ever heard of the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850, which was passed only because the Southern States threatened to secede and start a war.

In combination with the ruling of the Supreme Court in the case of Dredd Scot v Sanders, its effect was precisely to make the acts of the Legislature of South Carolina supersede those of Massachussetts ― et cetera.

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@publius

I am familiar with that. The question was rethorical.

You guys are in for a world of pain.

USPol A modest proposal 

@ParadeGrotesque meanwhile, outside of the Taliban community: theguardian.com/world/2022/jun

This week also Germany finally repealed a 1933 law that penalized advertising for and providing information about abortions. Nazis needed children, you know...

USPol A modest proposal 

@fedops

Just FYI here's the laws in France:

Abortion in France is legal on demand during the first 14 weeks from conception. Abortions at later stages of pregnancy are allowed if two physicians certify that the abortion will be done to prevent grave permanent injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman; a risk to the life of the pregnant woman; or that the child will suffer from a particularly severe illness recognized as incurable.

USPol A modest proposal 

This really is not different than laws passing or going into effect in many U.S States.

Also, you already have supreme court justices who voted to overturn roe saying that they will not allow states to prosecute or extradite people who travel interstate for abortions.

Roe V. Wade is not the end of abortion in all of the U.S. it just allows states to set their own rules. You have far more control over your state government than the federal, so direct energy there.

USPol A modest proposal 

@AdvJosh thanks. Very similar in Belgium and I believe Germany as well.

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@fedops

My pleasure! I'm just trying to remind people to not catastrophize since that won't get us anywhere.

If you want to protect the ability for a woman to choose, that has not been ended and your fight is not over. Direct your attention to your state Governor and representatives and make your voice heard.

Also states like NY and CA are already saying they will be meccas for women seeking that care and many companies will pay for travel.

USPol A modest proposal 

@AdvJosh it will be interesting to see what happens if a woman travels from, say Alabama to New York for an abortion. Will she be indicted upon return? Will her employer who paid for the trip face consequences? Will there be whistleblowers in her neighborhood? Will her medical records be used as evidence? Will NY refuse requests for data from the AL attorney general?

Crazy stuff.

USPol A modest proposal 

@fedops

reason.com/2022/06/24/states-c

Even the justices that voted to overturn also state that they would not allow that kind of behavior. Your ability to travel interstate is a constitutional right and they realize that must be protected. Your reasons for travel are not the governments business.

USPol A modest proposal 

@ParadeGrotesque don't forget the Jewish community is doing the same. Which'll put those crazy "Christian" (the quotes are important) in a rather deep predicament forward.com/fast-forward/50755

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@mmn

I am afraid the same thing will happen to the Jewish community: a judge will politely listen to the arguments of their lawyer and dismiss the case entirely.

Etc... etc...

USPol A modest proposal 

@ParadeGrotesque but at what cost ? It invalidates their own "religious freedoms" and opens the door to chaos or they have to say the quiet part out loud, which is "we're a bit Nazi" or "it was never about God in the first place" losing their not as kooky khrystian support in the process

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@mmn

Always remember:

- Taxes are for the little people
- It's all about THEIR freedom of speech, not yours, or mine
- The US is a Xtian nation. All other religions are optional

Up until very recently, Jewish were undesirables, like Catholics.

Intellectual honesty is not their strong suit, if you catch my drift.

USPol A modest proposal 

@ParadeGrotesque this we know bit they're very smart not to say it themselves. There are more misguided faithful than malicious, take the god part out and lose them, it is over

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@mmn

At this stage, I am sorry, but whatever Christianity these people may have had in the past has long faded away.

They have become Talibans, extremists. Sure, some of them may be against violence, but they will not lift a finger to defend those that are deemed "impure", for whatever cooked-up reason, by their clergy.

They will watch the world burn, safe and sound in the knowledge they are "God" chosen ones.

I am serious, and I speak of experience, alas.

USPol A modest proposal 

@ParadeGrotesque what you say of course is undebatable, it's the violent truth. History is riddled with $FAITH doing awful shit (or not doing anything) because $PROPHET says that $DIETY demands it to only benefit $PROPHET's, well, profits or vague vendetta. Religion as a method of controlling the masses is pretty much it's whole deal. The blindly faithful are also really easy to scam for the same reason (ex prosperity gospel), I'm not saying their hands are clean...

USPol A modest proposal 

@ParadeGrotesque ... but you need to keep the $DIETY thing running to keep them hooked on whatever bullshit is being sold

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