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Mozilla Google budget screaming 

Something is just wrong here... Mozilla just extended its deal with Google (making it the numero uno search engine) for something like 400 million dollars PER YEAR. For the next three years.

That is 1.2 BILLION dollars from 2020 to 2023.

If you cannot run a freaking NON-PROFIT on 400 MILLION dollars PER YEAR that means:

a) You are paying your executives too much.
b) You don't know how to manage a non-profit.
c) All of the above.
Source: zdnet.com/article/sources-mozi

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Mozilla Google budget screaming 

@ParadeGrotesque Uhm... WTF is going on? OK, I do get what's going on, but... Ah, well.

Mozilla Google budget screaming 

@ParadeGrotesque

Is that "cash money"? Or is a significant amount of it some kind of in-kind credit, say, for Google Ads? The latter is the kind of funny-money accounting common in startup financing deals, or so I have read. Provide something which is accounted for at a nominal price well above what it actually costs you.

Mozilla Google budget screaming 

@ParadeGrotesque
I don't like this, but I'm going to stick with Firefox. It's still better than the alternatives.

And it's positive that Mozilla is trying to sell things now, because that's the only way they'll be able to get rid of the dependence on Google funding.

It's a rotten situation that the web is in the control of a few big companies. Mozilla raise awareness about that, but they still have to play the game.

re: Mozilla Google budget screaming 

@ParadeGrotesque you might want to have a look into this project, it tries to hardfork current firefox: https://librewolf-community.gitlab.io/ I hope this will be the ff fork done right this time!

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@ParadeGrotesque seems like there's some deep mysterious truth to the idea that the managers will destroy everything to ensure they maintain a higher place in the hierarchy & live more comfortably than their underlings...

Mozilla Google budget screaming 

@ParadeGrotesque the Mozilla that laid off 250 employees was not the non-profit.

Mozilla Google budget screaming 

@ParadeGrotesque
seems a bit like a deal google would make to avoid getting shit for effectively being in a monopoly position while also making sure they stay in thatbposition if i get that right?

Mozilla Google budget screaming 

@juno

Yes, that's what it is.

Mozilla Google budget screaming 

@ParadeGrotesque Psst, they鈥檙e not a not-for-profit. They鈥檙e a not-for-profit that owns a half-billion dollar for-profit corporation. Or, as their head of EU public policy once told me: 鈥淲e鈥檙e just another Silicon Valley tech company, why are you holding us to a greater standard?鈥

Gee, I wonder why.

Maybe because that鈥檚 not how you present yourselves鈥

@ParadeGrotesque yep. was discussing this with a comrade today and i was like - how can this be possible?? why would you sack all these people, when you still make all that money??

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@ParadeGrotesque for the record, how many non-profit you managed in the past?

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@loweel

I have worked at 4 different non profit orgs in the past, including one as an IT manager.

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@ParadeGrotesque

fantastic. So you don鈥檛 know how to manage one financially. I have the same role in my corporate IT company, but I would鈥檛 be able to manage the whole thing.

Once clear you don鈥檛 know how to run this size of a no-profit, the point is: maybe you should stop lecturing?

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@loweel

Listen, you are free to defend Mozilla all you want. On the other hand, I can't help but notice you have chosen to attack me and my lack of competence instead of answering this simple question:

How come an org with an annual budget of 400 million US$ and no specific profit objectives, can choose to fire entire teams, providing an important service to a lot of people, to supposedly focus on... Profitable products?

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@ParadeGrotesque I defend nobody. I am just sick and tired of internet everythingologist lecturing on everything. I' m working for a corporation, I' m still NOT capable to run one same size. But, I'm not lecturing my CEO on how to do it. So either you ran a 400M$ no profit, or you stop lecturing people who does.

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@loweel

I can't help but notice you still haven't answered my point though. But that's ok.

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