@EdS @deejoe @kensanata What could possibly go wrong with a centralized service tracking the interests of a large fraction of Fediverse users?

Not that there's any nefarious purpose, but even if its operator William Murphy, who is a data visualization engineer, has no nefarious purposes in mind, if it becomes successful it could become a target for acquisition or some other kind of attack. github.com/wmurphyrd

But it's sooo convenient!

More seriously, not sure if data harvesting isn't already possible for those of us who use hashtags and post often enough.

And not so seriously, if gup.pe groups are a bad thing, perhaps they can motivate the support of groups in core mastodon, with whatever enhancements defend against the problem.

It's not obvious to me how I can talk in public about things which interest me without leaving a trail of the things which interest me.

@freakazoid @kensanata @deejoe

@EdS @deejoe @kensanata Public posts with hashtags are certainly the most visible form of communication here. My posts are almost exclusively unlisted or followers-only, but my unlisted posts are visible on my profile, so still quite easy to scrape.

It's not just a privacy issue, though. It's also an issue of centralization of control. Who gets a say in what gets to be communicated via groups? Who gets a say in what groups get to exist?

@kensanata @deejoe @EdS This is, by the way, a potentially fatal flaw in the Fediverse. Privacy simply isn't a design goal, nor is it easily achieved without major architectural changes.

@freakazoid @EdS I blame developers of certain widespread Fediverse software for not picking up any concept of groups over the past couple of years...

This implementation certainly has downsides, but it looks like it could be self-hostable, so people could set up their own group reflectors. If it works, it will fill quite a feature gap in the current incarnation of the Fediverse.

@galaxis @EdS Yeah self-hosting seems like the right answer. But as you say it should be a native concept.

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